HIV Test is valid?
- Alex
The validity of HIV Test is questionable
As there is no Virus there is no way to detect it
Wester Blot and Elisa is the way of detecting antibody of protein particles which are speculated to be infected by the HIV Virus
Many factors turn HIV test positive
The majority of HIV-positive people are gay men and that is because of receptive anal intercourse.
Semen is a strong factor in creating antibody
Amyl and butyl nitrites (Poppers) are a factor in creating antibody
Rectum has a different structure from the vagina so the semen easily goes to the bloodstream and creates antibodies.
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Supporting Articles
"At present, there is no scientific basis for using these tests to prove HIV infection." - Emeritus Prof. Gordon Stuart, Public Health, Glasgow UK
"It may be impossible to relate an antibody response specifically to HIV infection." - Chief UK virologist Philip Mortimer
"I think those of us who are not HIV positive cannot even begin to imagine how profoundly the psyche and health of an individual is affected by belief in the existence of a lethal retrovirus inexorably eating at the immune system. It must take extreme valor to even question what almost the whole of the rest of world believes to be true." - Dr Valender Turner, Consultant emergency physician, Royal Perth Hospital, Western Australia
"It is becoming painfully evident that the AIDS Establishment's admonition to gay men to stay healthy is proving less effective than its subliminal inducements to seroconvert, to enter a system predicated on early death." - Ian Young, Poet and Psychohistorian, Canada
"Antibodies produced as a result of infection with two germs [mycobacteria and yeast] that infect 90% of AIDS patients react with all the 'HIV' proteins." - Eleni Eleopulos. AIDS Researcher, Royal Perth Hospital, WA
https://studyclub.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/createpage.action?spaceKey=QA&title=del__Is%20the%20%22AIDS%20Test%22%20Accurate%3F&linkCreation=true&fromPageId=13303917
by Christine Maggiore
This excellent summary cuts through the jargon to bring us the facts we need to know.
https://aidsstudy.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/CH/pages/13632850/HIGH+RISK+OF+FALSE-POSITIVE+HIV+TESTS
Even if you accept the party line on HIV testing, take the numbers and do the math the average "HIV positive" is twice as likely to be false-positive as true-positive.
Why the “HIV Tests” Can’t Tell You Whether You Have HIV - RODNEY RICHARDS, Ph.D.
by MARK GABRISH CONLAN
Rodney Richards, Ph.D., didn’t start out as an AIDS rebel when he began his career as an organic chemist in 1982. The company he started to work for that year — then known as Applied Molecular Genetics and now called Amgen, the world’s largest biotech company — originally had him work on synthesizing DNA. In 1984 Amgen started working on a joint venture with Abbott Laboratories, the first licensee of the ELISA [Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay] test for HIV antibodies from inventor Dr. Robert Gallo, in which Amgen would help Abbott develop new technologies for diagnostic tests. (Contrary to popular belief, as Dr. Richards explains below, ELISA and the other “HIV tests” are neither licensed nor marketed as diagnostic tests.) “That’s how I got started with the HIV/AIDS business,” Dr. Richards recalled.
By Neville Hodgkinson
Historic moment for truth about "HIV" in the media.
By Celia Farber
With the first HIV test in 1985, doctors thought they had discovered an absolute oracle: Will the patient live or die? Celia Farber reports on a recent, controversial paper that says the so-called AIDS test is too flawed to be reliable. (The article Farber reviews can be found below.)
Etienne de Harven, MD
Professor Emeritus of Pathology,
University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Haematologica - Journal of Hematology
1999; 84:385-389
"... the specificity of viral markers depends on the success of virus isolation and purification. Without fully demonstrated success in virus isolation and purification, identification of viral markers is extremely hazardous and can lead to severe misinterpretation of clinical data. A dramatic illustration of this is to be found in current HIV research. In this case, the virus (HIV) has never been properly isolated, since sedimentation in sucrose gradient at the density of 1.16 g/mL was erroneously considered to yield pure virus, systematically ignoring that material sedimenting at that density contains large amounts of cell debris and microvesicles. Therefore, proteins and nucleic acids found in such 1.16 bands are very likely to be of cellular origin and cannot be used as viral markers. Such a faulty methodology has had extremely serious consequences, i.e. the world-wide use of HIV-antibody tests, Elisa and Western Blot, which dangerously lack specificity, as demonstrated in 1993 by Papadopulos et al., in Australia."
Related Article - CENSORED TV NEWS ITEM
U.K.'s Channel 4 News commissioned a 1998 World AIDS Day News Report from Meditel, on HIV testing and the Perth Group. Channel 4 News supervised 4 drafts of the script and approved a press release and broadcast date. Interviews were taped, and the news feature was edited at Channel 4 News, including an interview with a young gay man who had contradictory test results at London teaching hospitals. On Thursday 26th November, the commissioned report was banned by Channel 4 News Editor Jim Gray.
You will need a Real G2 Player installed to see the video. There is a low-quality 20 kbps stream (for slow modems), a 40 kbps stream, and an 80 kbps stream (higher quality, for fast connections).
12th World AIDS Conference Official Satelite Meeting
Geneva, June 28th 1998
Presentation by Eleni Papadopulos et al.
Department of Medical Physics,
Royal Perth Hospital, Perth, Western Australia
IFAS Press-Communique from the 1998 12th World AIDS Conference
None of the so-called "HIV-markers", biomedical or genetic, seen in human subjects labelled "HIV positive" and/or having "AIDS" has been known to be specific for "HIV".
DO ANTIBODY TESTS PROVE HIV INFECTION?
By Huw Christie, CONTINUUM, Winter 1998
A blood-curdling interview with Dr. Valendar F. Turner
This interview is highly recommended reading. It is a clear, not-too-technical discussion of the Perth Group's ideas about HIV testing. It also ties in the importance of the HIV isolation issue.
(The graph below is the one refered to in this article.)
TALK ON HIV ANTIBODY TESTS
15 minute talk by Dr. Turner (REALAUDIO)
Related Articles - No universal standards
HIV test results vary depending on where you live. In the U.S., Canada, most of Europe but not in England or Wales, the Western Blot test confirms ELISA tests. Dr. Valendar Turner explains how HIV antibody test results can be interpreted very differently by nine different international standards. For instance it is possible for any person to be any of the following on a single test result: positive in Australia, but not in France; positive in France, but not in Australia (for different reasons); positive in Africa and not positive everywhere else in the world. A Martian might be forgiven for wondering whether wine tasting was less subjective (Turner, 1995).
See a detailed annotated version of the HIV Western Blot table: ( ).
Related Articles - The inescapable law of positive predictive value
THE IMPORTANCE OF DISEASE PREVALENCE IN HIV TESTING
Why not test everyone for HIV infection? Because all screening tests have a property known as positive predictive value -- the probability that a positive test result is truly positive. As state and provincial health authorities mandate HIV tests as part of routine prenatal testing for all pregnant women they violate the basic principal. AmFAR explains.
Mass HIV Testing: A Disaster in the Making
by Christine Johnson, Zenger's August 1996
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently approved the sale of HIV antibody test kits for home use. Since anyone will soon be able to walk into a drug store and buy one of these kits, it is inevitable that the kits will also be used by thousands, or even millions, of people who are not at risk for AIDS. Sometimes referred to as the "worried well", these people have something else to worry about: Baye's Law. Baye's Law is simply a principle of statistical analysis that states the following: When you use a test in a population with a very low incidence of the disease you are testing for, you will get huge numbers of false-positives. This is true for any test for any disease.
THE PERFORMANCE RATE FOR THE COMBINED ELISA AND WESTERN BLOT HIV TEST - IS 99% ACCURACY GOOD ENOUGH? THE ANSWER: NO!
Even when the AIDS orthodoxy admit the cold figures and hard facts their interpretation is delusional. This page from AIDS UPDATE 1999 is a perfect example.
SCREENING FOR HIV: CAN WE AFFORD THE FALSE POSITIVE RATE?
KLEMENS B.MEYER, M.D. and STEPHEN G. PAUKER, M.D.
THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE Vol. 317 No. 4 July 23, 1987
This article is a classic. We can't say we weren't warned!
By Vladimir Koliadin
In 1993, the widely accepted ideas that a positive test for HIV-antibodies is specific (i.e. means HIV-infection) and that HIV exists as an exogenous retrovirus were challenged by Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al. (Perth Group). At present, it is still accepted in mainstream AIDS-science that existence of HIV and high specificity of HIV-antibody tests are ultimately proven scientific facts. Besides conformity of thinking and vested interests, this belief is maintained due to the absence of clear-cut alternative explanations for the phenomena which are thought to prove the HIV-causes-AIDS theory. Some important questions have not been answered. If HIV does not exist, what causes a positive test for HIV-antibodies? Why are almost all AIDS-patients seropositive while almost all healthy individuals are not? Why is the positive test strongly associated with high mortality and susceptibility to opportunistic infections?
Compiled by Christine Johnson Continuum Magazine Vol 4 No 3
The AIDS establishment has managed to convince many people that the HIV antibody tests (ELISA, IFA and Western Blot) are "99.5% accurate". In this article, Christine Johnson, from HEAL Los Angeles, lists more than 60 conditions documented in the scientific literature known to cause positives on these tests, and gives her references.
Although patients with alcoholic liver disease do not develop KS, PCP and other AIDS indicator diseases more often than usual, they have both immune deficiency and positive HIV antibody tests leading researchers from the Veterans Administration Medical Centre to stress the importance of recognising these facts: "...lest these patients be falsely labelled as having infection with the AIDS virus and suffer the socioeconomic consequences of this diagnosis" (Mendenhall et al., 1986). |
With all the talk of the inaccuracy of the "HIV test", what does it really mean to test "positive? This discussion focuses on the "Oxidative Stress" theory, which helps explain why there may be a loose correlation between "HIV+" and some people who get sick.
How does one get HIV positive?
I mean, do the dissidents believe that it is though sex or what? If it is though sex then are heterosexual and homosexual sex equally "risky"? How can you explain the correlation (however tenuous) between the amount of people who have AIDS and who are HIV positive? ie - How come people with AIDS live roughly the same lifestyle as HIV-positive people?
Medical researcher Roberto A. Giraldo, MD is obtaining astonishing results.
E. Papadopulos-Eleopulos (1) V.F. Turner (2) and J.M. Papadimitriou (3)
Res. Immunol. 1992, 143, 145-148
(1) Department of Medical Physics, (2) Emergency Department and (3) Department of Pathology, (University of Western Australia), Royal Perth Hospital, Wellington St., Perth 6001 (Western Australia)
Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al give a summary of their hypothesis that oxidative stress as a principal mechanism in both the development of AIDS and expression of "HIV". According to their theory an "HIV" antibody positive test result, in the absense of clinical symptoms, is only a marker for a possible risk of AIDS and not an indication of infection with an "AIDS virus". One of the reasons that most people diagnosed with AIDS are "HIV" positive is because they are highly oxidized. (Another reason for this strong correlation is most AIDS definitions exclude an HIV-negative-AIDS diagnosis by definition.)
By Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos, Valendar F. Turner and John M. Papadimitriou
BIO/TECHNOLOGY VOL.11 JUNE 1993
The "AIDS test" is invalid and incapable of determining whether people are really infected with HIV, according to this report by a team of Australian scientists who have conducted the first extensive review of research surrounding the test. Earth shattering, long and necessarily technical article.
Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos, Valendar F.Turner,
John M Papadimitriou, Gordon Stewart, and David Causer
Current Medical Research and Opinion Vol. 13: 627-634, 1997